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<title>IE Oddness</title><biblioid class="uri">http://norman.walsh.name/2003/07/14/ieoddness</biblioid>
<volumenum>6</volumenum>
<issuenum>59</issuenum>
<pubdate>2003-07-14</pubdate>
<date>$Date: 2005-09-11 10:27:02 -0400 (Sun, 11 Sep 2005) $</date>
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      <personname>
<firstname>Norman</firstname>
	<surname>Walsh</surname>
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<copyright>
      <year>2003</year>
      <holder>Norman Walsh</holder>
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<para>A plea for help. I'm getting reports of problems with IE and
images, but I can't fathom the problem. (Updated again 15 July 2003:
comments in JPEG files may be the culprit.)</para>
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<para xml:id="p1">Over the past couple of weeks, I've had several reports from
readers having trouble viewing images from this site in IE. I even
managed to replicate the problem myself on Deb's laptop, though I was
none the wiser for the effort.</para>

<para xml:id="p2">The symptom as described is that you go to
<link xlink:href="../12/nikon5700">a page</link> that contains one or more images
and the text loads fine in IE but the images never come up. The
browser status area reports that it's waiting for some number of
images and the browser keeps on chugging, but nothing is ever
displayed.</para>

<para xml:id="p3">Server logs suggest that 43 or so percent of you are coming in
with one version of <application>Internet Explorer</application> or
another. Are only a miniscule percentage of readers experiencing the
problem, or reporting it?</para>

<para xml:id="p4">I'm stumped. Intuition and a few moments casual testing suggest
that I could work around it by making all the image links more
explicit (removing all content negotiation from the equation) but I really don't
want to. And I can't see why it should be necessary.</para>

<para xml:id="p5">Clues solicited.</para>

<formalpara>
    <title>It's the metadata</title>
<para xml:id="p6">Update: 24 July 2003: After another week, I'm pretty sure it's the metadata
(comments in JPEG files, actually). Below are two images: they are
identical except that one has embedded metadata and the other doesn't.
Many (most? all?) IE users, can only see the one without metadata.</para>
</formalpara>

<gal:photo rdf:resource="images/nometa"/>

<gal:photo rdf:resource="images/meta"/>

<para xml:id="p7">Update: 15 Jul 2003: I've removed image metadata from the
thumbnail and scaled images. This should make both of the images above
and most other images accessible. It's possible that <quote>full
size</quote> images (the ones you get on if you click on an image on a
page) will still cause problems. While I'm sympathetic, I'm very fond
of my metadata and I'm not moved to rip it all out just to work around
a broken browser.</para>

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