norman.walsh.name: Comments on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2003/07/14/ieoddness/comments.atom2012-02-13T08:27:22.000926ZComment 1 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00012003-07-15T11:54:43Z2003-07-15T11:54:43Zandrose rosewood

Have you tried using GIFs instead of PNGs ? IE/Win only partially (no transparency) supports PNG since v5.5 I think. You may alsowant to lower the compression ratio on your images, because the artifacts are quite visible :) Cheers.

Comment 2 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00022003-07-15T13:32:50Z2003-07-15T13:32:50Zjonathon jongsma

Yeah, i'm seeing the issue as well (IE6, Win2k). I don't have any clues for you, but I thought I'd add my data point.

Comment 3 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00032003-07-15T13:45:40Z2003-07-15T13:45:40ZNorman Walshda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

There are a few PNGs, but I've avoided transparency on them for just the reasons you note. The problematic images are almost all JPGs.

Comment 4 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00042003-07-15T14:03:07Z2003-07-15T14:03:07ZThomas Strombergda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

Just a guess - but it could be that you used Photoshop 7.0 for Mac and did not use "Save for Web". It stores extra metadata for printing controls and such in the JPEG headers. It happens to crash IE for Windows JPEG system until closing.

I ran into this problem with my site. I used some command line wizardry to strip it all out: http://toadstool.se/blog/archives/000031.php

Comment 5 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00052003-07-15T15:27:09Z2003-07-15T15:27:09ZBob Claryda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

IE6/Win2k shows Metadata: NO but does not show Metadata: Yes.

I thought the meta data in jpg was too good to be true. :-)

Comment 6 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00062003-07-15T16:53:00Z2003-07-15T16:53:00ZClint Combsda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

I can't see the images in IE. I'm using IE 5.5 here at work and IE 6 on my laptop... neither one works.

Comment 7 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00072003-07-15T19:46:29Z2003-07-15T19:46:29ZAndreas Finkda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

hi norman,

i can see both images (IE5.0). but the properties of both images show as size in bytes of -1 and no type of image. so maybe there is something wrong with the headers. and please don't use PNG on webpages, IE's native PNG support, if available, is really bad and if you have quicktime installed it always grabs the rights to show PNG's, loads the very slow QT-plugin and crashes with a chance of 500D

best regards, andi

Comment 8 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00082003-07-15T19:53:36Z2003-07-15T19:53:36ZAnthony Starksda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

with IE6/XP, the image with no Metadata shows, the "YES" image does not.

The plausible explanation seems to be the photoshop-supplied metadata.

Comment 9 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00092003-07-16T06:08:10Z2003-07-16T06:08:10ZMartin Kennyda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

Hi Norm,

FWIW, I can see both images just fine in IE 6.0.2800 (with all patches applied) on both Windows XP and Windows 2000.

Just to verify that I had the right file, I can see the RDF when I save the file and look at it in a binary editor.

BTW, I love that photo!

Cheers, Marty.

Comment 10 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00102003-07-16T06:52:37Z2003-07-16T06:52:37ZAlexander Peshkovda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

Now I can see all images (both marked as "metadata: no" and "metadata: yes") in my IE6.0 (W2K). The same for larger version of these images. The thing to note is that IE cannot detect their type and intrinsic size (appropriate properties in IE are set to "Not available").

Comment 11 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00112003-07-16T07:05:06Z2003-07-16T07:05:06ZAlexander Peshkovda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

In addition to my previous post: when I said "all images" I meant "all images on this page" (nice wet lily). But this one is still a mistery for my IE: http://norman.walsh.name/2003/07/08/images/beebalm2 The same for the rest of images from that set (tumbnail images work fine).

Comment 12 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00122003-07-22T16:22:53Z2003-07-22T16:22:53ZMark Levisonda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

IE 6.0.2800 running XP (has all the current updates), I can see both images no problem

Comment 13 on /2003/07/14/ieoddnesshttp://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment00132003-07-25T21:15:11Z2003-07-25T21:15:11ZStuart Williamsda39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709

Hi Norm,

I'm using IE 6.0.2800 at home and can see all the pictures. Nice site BTW... looks none too bad here even if you reckon Mozilla would do a better job.

One oddity is that if I "right-click->Open Link in New Window" on a picture I get the middle size image with metadata and prev/next buttons. Simply clicking gets me the full size image. Also clicking the prev/next buttons also steps to a full size image rather than a middle size image plus metadata.

Curious...

Stuart