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<title>norman.walsh.name: Comments on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<title>Comment 0001 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2003-09-24T18:14:01Z</published>
<updated>2003-09-24T18:14:01Z</updated>
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  <name>Tobi </name>
  <uri>http://www.pinkjuice.com/</uri>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>"Allow markup and insist that it be well-formed.</p>
<p>This is arguably the hardest thing to do, but it&amp;apos;s not really that hard, is it?"</p>
<p>I agree that it isn&amp;apos;t very hard. RSS is XML thus must be well-formed (and valid).</p>
<p>Thus people and tools creating RSS (and similiar formats) can be expected and required to and should be able to make sure that inlined XHTML is well-formed as well.</p>
<p>Tobi</p></div></content>
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<title>Comment 0002 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2003-09-24T18:21:06Z</published>
<updated>2003-09-24T18:21:06Z</updated>
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  <name>Tobi </name>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>... and it might be a good idea to put XHTML 1 in the XHTML 1 namespace.</p>
<p>Tobi</p></div></content>
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<title>Comment 0003 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2003-11-22T03:16:52Z</published>
<updated>2003-11-22T03:16:52Z</updated>
<author>
  <name>Randy Morin</name>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>HTML is a meme. XHTML may someday replace it, but till then, I dont think you can get around it. I like the "leave them on the net somewhere and point to them" solution. That is, SSF.</p></div></content>
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<title>Comment 4 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2004-12-28T09:37:37Z</published>
<updated>2004-12-28T09:37:37Z</updated>
<author>
  <name>Nolan</name>
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  <uri>http://www.semanticgap.com/people/sneakin/</uri>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>What not use namespaces? This is what Jabber/XMPP use. For example:
</p><pre>
&lt;funkyxml xmlns="funky:xml"&gt;
  &lt;item xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"&gt;
    &lt;h1&gt;Woohoo!&lt;/h1&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;This is in HTML.&lt;/p&gt;
  &lt;/item&gt;
&lt;/funkxml&gt;

Here's a page on how to do this in XHTML. It should also be done with every other XML document too: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#well-formed

- Nolan</pre></div></content>
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<title>Comment 5 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2005-12-02T18:45:41Z</published>
<updated>2005-12-02T18:45:41Z</updated>
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  <name>Paul Downey</name>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Over two years later, and I'm sitting looking at a WS-I monitor log.xml file and it contains captured SOAP messages as escaped content .. Grr ..
</p><p>
You know what would help folks like me a lot is if we knew how to base64binary encode/decode in XSLT, but anyway, <a rel='nofollow' href="http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/testsuite/">my version</a> of a SOAP log file will embed captured XML documents as XML.</p></div></content>
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<title>Comment 6 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2005-12-14T16:00:06Z</published>
<updated>2005-12-14T16:00:06Z</updated>
<author>
  <name>Neil Greenwood</name>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I'm getting 404 errors when clicking on the links to your example feeds and doc2.html.</p></div></content>
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<title>Comment 7 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2005-12-14T17:54:28Z</published>
<updated>2005-12-14T17:54:28Z</updated>
<author>
  <name>Norman Walsh</name>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Bah. I don't know when that happened. Sorry. Fixed now.</p></div></content>
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<title>Comment 8 on /2003/09/18/unescmarkup</title>
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<published>2005-12-18T20:39:28Z</published>
<updated>2005-12-18T20:39:28Z</updated>
<author>
  <name>Peter Flynn</name>
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<content type='xhtml'><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I've also been gently and not-so-gently pushing people away from CDATA and from escaped markup in the <a rel='nofollow' href="http://xml.silmaril.ie/authors/cdata/">XML FAQ</a> for a while as well, and I agree we simply haven't reached the mass market on this. We need to shout LOUDER!</p>
<p>It's a form of Tag Abuse, and as such I think it's time to resuscitate <a rel='nofollow' href="http://www.ucc.ie/sdata/">The Society for the Definitive Abolition of Tag Abuse</a> (SDATA). All who grok the problem are welcome!</p></div></content>
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