<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"><title>norman.walsh.name: Comments on /2004/10/04/quotes</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2004/10/04/quotes"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2004/10/04/quotes/comments.atom</id><updated>2012-05-22T19:10:54.345663Z</updated><entry><title>Comment 1 on /2004/10/04/quotes</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2004/10/04/quotes#comment0001"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0001</id><published>2004-10-05T12:43:30Z</published><updated>2004-10-05T12:43:30Z</updated><author><name>jr</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>As a Swiss citizen, I can assure you that quotes are normally written as you would expect them. If different quotes are used, it's «this» or sometimes »this« – I don't know the exact typorgraphic convention here, though.</p>

<p>BTW: Enjoy your stay in Switzerland!</p>

<p>Regards<br clear="none"/>
Johann</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 2 on /2004/10/04/quotes</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2004/10/04/quotes#comment0002"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0002</id><published>2004-10-05T16:25:23Z</published><updated>2004-10-05T16:25:23Z</updated><author><name>Dorothea Salo</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Typographical error. I'm mystified as to how it happened; no "smart quotes" engine I'm aware of would produce that. Someone must have decided to do it that way.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 3 on /2004/10/04/quotes</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2004/10/04/quotes#comment0003"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0003</id><published>2004-10-05T17:24:30Z</published><updated>2004-10-05T17:24:30Z</updated><author><name>John Cowan</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>I suspect that whoever typeset that knows that both opening and closing quotes in English are high (as opposed to the German convention of low-9 opening, high-6 closing), but didn't have the proper high-9 available, so used high-6 for both opening and closing.  Think of it as typographical Engrish.</p>

<p>Here's a concise summary of quotation rules for various languages:</p>

<pre>English/Dutch/Italian/Portuguese/Spanish/Turkish: high-6 to high-9
German/Czech/Slovak: low-9 to high-6, or guillemets pointing in
Danish/Finnish/Norwegian/Swedish: high-9 to high-9, or guillemets pointing right
Hungarian/Polish: low-9 to high-9, or guillemets pointing right
French/Greek/Russian: guillemets pointing out
Slovenian: guillemets pointing in
</pre>

<p>This is documented on pages 156-58 of <i>The Unicode Standard, Version 4.0</i>, available online as pages 11-13 of http://www.unicode.org/versions/Unicode4.0.0/ch06.pdf , along with the CJK styles (too complex for this comment).</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 4 on /2004/10/04/quotes</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2004/10/04/quotes#comment0004"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0004</id><published>2004-10-05T19:15:20Z</published><updated>2004-10-05T19:15:20Z</updated><author><name>Martin Kretzschmar</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Ha! You wrote „this.” Didn't you want to write „this,“ or did you expect Hungarian/Polish style in Switzerland?
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I had this “What did they do with the quotes”-feeling in a (dubbed) movie last Friday.  It had some text overlays, sometimes quoting like „this” and sometimes like „this!“</p>
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