<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"><title>norman.walsh.name: Comments on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip/comments.atom</id><updated>2012-02-13T06:38:07.351247Z</updated><entry><title>Comment 1 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0001"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0001</id><published>2006-02-01T19:52:11Z</published><updated>2006-02-01T19:52:11Z</updated><author><name>Ian Phillips</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>You may make it easier for people to switch by adding a link to the Atom feed into the post, I had to: go to the article page (i.e. out of my feed reader), hunt for the atom link, fail to find it, go to the home page, hunt for the atom link, fail to find it. Then realise that it was the little icon thingy and repoint my feed reader at it.
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    <p>
Although I guess most people who read your blog are probably savvy enough to work it out eventually!
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    <p>
Oh, almost forgot: have a great vacataion!</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 2 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0002"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0002</id><published>2006-02-01T20:45:00Z</published><updated>2006-02-01T20:45:00Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Good point. I'll make it clearer in the essay that announces the implementation of the changes. And I'll redirect the RSS feeds to their Atom counterparts.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 3 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0003"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0003</id><published>2006-02-01T20:58:02Z</published><updated>2006-02-01T20:58:02Z</updated><author><name>Alejandro Exojo</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>I would like to drop also RSS from my my blog, but unfortunately not all CMSs support atom (in particular, not the one I'm using). BTW, the link that says <a rel="nofollow" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2003/08/20/embedded.html">escaped markup</a> is broken. Greetings.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 4 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0004"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0004</id><published>2006-02-01T22:09:58Z</published><updated>2006-02-01T22:09:58Z</updated><author><name>Edd Dumbill</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Alas, Planet RDF won't like that much, as we're really rather keen on consuming RDF, ie. RSS 1.0.  There is a way of doing that and not encoding though, I believe.  Time to invoke Dave Beckett here...</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 5 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0005"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0005</id><published>2006-02-01T23:34:27Z</published><updated>2006-02-01T23:34:27Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Sigh. Perhaps I'm being hasty after all. I suppose I could just throw all the markup away.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 6 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0006"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0006</id><published>2006-02-01T23:40:58Z</published><updated>2006-02-01T23:40:58Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>On the other hand, maybe PlanetRDF could map Atom to RDF.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 7 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0007"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0007</id><published>2006-02-02T00:03:33Z</published><updated>2006-02-02T00:03:33Z</updated><author><name>David Magda</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>It should be noted that the Atom feed for Norman's weblog is:

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    <p>http://norman.walsh.name/atom/whatsnew.xml

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    <p>I couldn't find it anywhere on entry's web page, and had to go to the main web page of the site.

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    <p>Perhaps you want to add a LINK element to the each entriy's HEAD that containts application/atom+xml for the main weblog? I mean, you have a LINK for XML, metadata, and PDF forms of the entry, what's one more line really?</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 8 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0008"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0008</id><published>2006-02-02T02:44:19Z</published><updated>2006-02-02T02:44:19Z</updated><author><name>karl</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>or maybe another way would be to use <code>rdf:parseType="Literal"</code> in RSS 1.0 as proposed by Dan Brickley on the wiki page about <a rel="nofollow" href="http://esw.w3.org/topic/RssContent">RSS content</a>.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 9 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0009"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0009</id><published>2006-02-04T18:58:36Z</published><updated>2006-02-04T18:58:36Z</updated><author><name>Florent Georges</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>I directly switched from RSS to Atom to be sure to not miss an article.  But I discovered that the Atom full text feed don't include the summary.
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    <p>
Bug or feature?
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    <p>
--drkm</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 10 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0010"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0010</id><published>2006-02-10T18:58:10Z</published><updated>2006-02-10T18:58:10Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature, but it was intentional. It seemed odd to put both the summary and the full text in the same feed. I wonder what feed readers will display if I do that?</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 11 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0011"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0011</id><published>2006-02-14T06:37:38Z</published><updated>2006-02-14T06:37:38Z</updated><author><name>Aristotle Pagaltzis</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>They will generally show whatever the user wants. Putting both in the feed is good practice.</p>

<p>F.ex. NetNewsWire has a mode where it will show an outline list of entries with summaries in one pane and the full text of the selected entry in another pane.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 12 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0012"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0012</id><published>2006-12-13T00:20:15Z</published><updated>2006-12-13T00:20:15Z</updated><author><name>C. M. Sperberg-McQueen</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>I'm deeply impressed with the people who managed to find
the URL of the Atom feed on the site's home page, and 
very grateful to David Magda for spelling it out for me.
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    <p>
I'd feel bad, but I notice that when I look at the HTML
source being served from the home page, the string 'atom'
occurs only in two 'link' elements in the HTML header.
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    <p>
Norm, is it that you want a personal email every time
someone wants to subscribe to your feed?  Or have you done
a redesign that accidentally lost the icon?  Or is Opera
just not up to displaying your site?</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 13 on /2006/02/01/rssrip</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/02/01/rssrip#comment0013"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0013</id><published>2006-12-19T13:47:52Z</published><updated>2006-12-19T13:47:52Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Uhm. I think the links to the feeds disappeared by accident when I simplified the layout a few months ago. I added a pointer to subscriptions to the home page this morning.
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    <p>
I don't know about Opera, but Firefox, and other browsers, I'm led to understand, have built in support for feeds so the absence of explicit links is probably less irksome now than it used to be.
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    <p>
But it was still accidental.</p>
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