<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"><title>norman.walsh.name: Comments on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs/comments.atom</id><updated>2012-05-23T11:17:57.902551Z</updated><entry><title>Comment 1 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0001"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0001</id><published>2006-08-17T20:48:39Z</published><updated>2006-08-17T20:48:39Z</updated><author><name>Martin Kretzschmar</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Unfortunately, the Unicode characters are not missing from Bitstream Vera, but (IIRC) there is no code to display anything except ASCII (Latin-1?) in the xft patch.
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There's a new branch emacs-unicode-2 (or is it unicode-xft?) in CVS that might be better in this regard.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 2 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0002"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0002</id><published>2006-08-17T21:29:54Z</published><updated>2006-08-17T21:29:54Z</updated><author><name>Duncan Mak</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>There's a better version of an Xft-enabled emacs available now. 
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You can get it by following the instructions on:
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http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/XftGnuEmacs
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    <p>
Duncan.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 3 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0003"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0003</id><published>2006-08-17T21:43:46Z</published><updated>2006-08-17T21:43:46Z</updated><author><name>Adam Constabaris</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>
 The Flash limitation is architecture specific; there's no Flash plugin for amd64.  The only thing I really miss here is Homestar Runner, but the kicker is there's no Web Start in Sun's 64 bit Linux VM offerings, either.  There are two solutions I know of: one is to not install the 64-bit version of your Linux distribution in the first place, and the other of which is to use the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://packages.debian.org/unstable/utils/linux32"><code>linux32</code> wrapper utility</a> in combination with a 32-bit browser and JRE (and Flash) installation (there's a howto on the Ubuntu forums that covers this in detail).  The former is the fate that befell the mighty Ultra 20 I use to develop JWS apps (ok, app).
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The <code>linux32</code> route worked well enough for those specific applications when I tried it, but I eventually gave up on that arrangement because the 32 bit Firefox was unable to use the 64 bit plugins that come with the distribution (e.g. archive manager).
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  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 4 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0004"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0004</id><published>2006-08-17T21:56:09Z</published><updated>2006-08-17T21:56:09Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Right you are! The <code>emacs-unicode-2</code> branch does display all the glyphs (some of them are damn ugly, but that's a different issue). And despite someone else's report that it's not doing subpixel rendering, it appears to be doing so for me. Sweet.
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Now I'll have to look more closely at some of the other annoyances: emacs is using <code>xml-mode</code> instead of <code>nxml-mode</code>, despite my <em>~/.emacs</em> configurations to the contrary and some underlying change has broken <code>n3-mode</code>. Ahh, the bleeding edge.
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Thanks, guys!</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 5 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0005"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0005</id><published>2006-08-18T01:15:32Z</published><updated>2006-08-18T01:15:32Z</updated><author><name>Malcolm Tredinnick</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>You might also want to have a look at the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page">Deja Vu</a> fonts, which are the Open Source community's continuing extensions to Bitstream (including better Unicode coverage and some glyph fixes). To my untrained (and not particularly discerning) eye, Deja Vu is a slight improvement on Bitstream, although it's standard weights are, if anything, a bit lighter again than Bitstream, so that may annoy you.
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I'm not a Debian user nor an emacs user, so I'm not sure how smooth the integration will be (or whether it just ends up proving Tim's inadvertent point that Emacs users have to suffer more). Fedora has had Deja Vu packages available as an extra download for a few months now, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's just an apt-get away in Debian land, too.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 6 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0006"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0006</id><published>2006-08-18T11:31:48Z</published><updated>2006-08-18T11:31:48Z</updated><author><name>Aristotle Pagaltzis</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Take a look at the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.lowing.org/fonts/"> Monospace/Fixed Width Programmer’s Fonts</a>. After Vera Sans Mono, which I consider the most gorgeous fixed width font of all time, I am also fond of Anonymous. Andale Mono runs a distant third – not because I don’t like it much, but simply because it just can’t compete in that pile.</p>
<p>May wanna take these on a spin.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 7 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0007"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0007</id><published>2006-08-18T17:17:38Z</published><updated>2006-08-18T17:17:38Z</updated><author><name>Anthony B. Coates</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Reading the full-text version of the feed in Opera, the image didn't appear (although it clearly appears on the Web page).  I wonder if there is a relative path issue in the feed.  Possible?  Thanks,
Cheers, Tony.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 8 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0008"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0008</id><published>2006-08-18T17:26:00Z</published><updated>2006-08-18T17:26:00Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Opera ignores <code>xml:base</code> on feed entries?</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 9 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0009"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0009</id><published>2006-08-19T15:03:04Z</published><updated>2006-08-19T15:03:04Z</updated><author><name>Ken MacLeod</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>For some reason I find anti-aliasing to be hard on the eyes with the smaller fonts I prefer.  Maybe that'll change with an LCD and its subpixeling.
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I always find myself going back to X's 'fixed' font, aka '6x13' and '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-1'.</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 10 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0010"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0010</id><published>2006-08-24T02:39:11Z</published><updated>2006-08-24T02:39:11Z</updated><author><name>david</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>Here's the package pre-built for Dapper (currently downloading, so I haven't tested it yet):
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<a rel="nofollow" href="http://theory.tifr.res.in/~anindya_m/ubuntu.html">http://theory.tifr.res.in/~anindya_m/ubuntu.html</a>
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  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 11 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0011"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0011</id><published>2006-08-28T14:25:44Z</published><updated>2006-08-28T14:25:44Z</updated><author><name>Kevin Wright</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>For about four years I used Andale Mono inside emacs.  I was mostly happy with it.  I think it is vector based (not bitmapped), but I'm not sure.  At small point sizes, YV is hard to distinguish.
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A few months ago I switched to Dina.  Bitmapped, but I like it better.  If you try it, this might help:
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(setq default-frame-alist 
  (append default-frame-alist
;      '((font . "-*-Andale Mono-normal-r-*-*-11-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-2")))))
      '((font . "-raster-Dina-normal-r-normal-normal-10-75-96-96-c-*-iso8859-1"))))</p>
  </div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 12 on /2006/08/17/emacs</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2006/08/17/emacs#comment0012"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0012</id><published>2009-05-16T23:20:40Z</published><updated>2009-05-16T23:20:40Z</updated><author><name>Patrick Jakubowski</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
    <p>I use very clean bitmap font "Fixed Etl 14pt" in emacs that looks cleaner than any antialised font, especially on LCD monitors. I would be glad to always have option to use this bitmap font.
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See: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CZNZ7Lcfgz7mbfKI8Je60Q?feat=directlink"> screenshot </a></p>
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