<feed xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:foaf="http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/"><title>norman.walsh.name: Comments on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd/comments.atom</id><updated>2012-05-24T00:06:40.791418Z</updated><entry><title>Comment 1 on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd#comment0001"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0001</id><published>2011-12-13T13:50:41Z</published><updated>2011-12-13T13:50:41Z</updated><author><name>Matěj Cepl</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I don’t know how it is with toy operating systems, but with
Linux I am quite happy with having /tmp on a ramdisk (tmpfs in
Linux-speak; my computer has 4GB RAM). No need to play with
expensive toys.</p></div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 2 on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd#comment0002"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0002</id><published>2011-12-13T14:25:58Z</published><updated>2011-12-13T14:25:58Z</updated><author><name>Jacek Kopecky</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>On the last ed-remark, you need to do that just about every time
you do a build - or do you reboot your machine before each
build?</p>
<p>When I got an SSD, the speedup I noticed first was in the time
of starting apps. Starting almost anything now takes next to
nothing, under almost any conditions. When I log in, all the
open-at-login items (stickies/skype/itunes/etc.) start crazy fast.
Effectively, you should expect (and tune for) responsiveness
improvements (lotsa little things are much quicker), not for speed
improvements for big tasks.</p></div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 3 on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd#comment0003"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0003</id><published>2011-12-13T14:56:47Z</published><updated>2011-12-13T14:56:47Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>The point of the closing editorial remark was that I don't
actually need to rebuild the server from scratch so often that I
need to do it with office apps or webex (or photoshop or lightroom,
etc.) running. But you're right, there are always two emacsen and a
web browser and another server running, so the point's cloudy at
best.</p>
<p>I did notice how fast apps started. I'm almost certain I'll try
it again. After I get caught up from four lost days :-/</p></div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 4 on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd#comment0004"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0004</id><published>2011-12-13T16:24:57Z</published><updated>2011-12-13T16:24:57Z</updated><author><name>Micah Dubinko</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>How many parallel compiler processes did you have for that
build? If your swapfile is on the SSD you really ought to max out
your CPU and let swap happen. For example I use -j8 on my quad-core
hyperthreaded Core i7 machine with 8G RAM; I close down any
large-memory-using programs and let it go to town.</p>
<p>I just did a clean make -j8 and it took 5 minutes 29 seconds
(not including boot time, because I didn't reboot) -m</p></div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 5 on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd#comment0005"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0005</id><published>2011-12-13T18:27:30Z</published><updated>2011-12-13T18:27:30Z</updated><author><name>Norman Walsh</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>I timed "make slow; make -j3". You're absolutely right that I
could have been more aggressive in the SSD case. I'll try again
when I'm back in a place where I can.</p>
<p>For the curious: "make slow" compiles eight or ten particularly
large modules in series; they're guaranteed to cause swapping if
you run them in parallel. That's less important on an SSD, but for
fairness I timed the same commands in each case.</p></div></content></entry><entry><title>Comment 6 on /2011/12/13/ssd</title><link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://norman.walsh.name/2011/12/13/ssd#comment0006"/><id>http://norman.walsh.name/2010/09/25/oauth#comment0006</id><published>2011-12-13T19:20:04Z</published><updated>2011-12-13T19:20:04Z</updated><author><name>Derek Read</name><foaf:mbox_sha1sum>da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709</foaf:mbox_sha1sum></author><content type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Seagate makes a "hybrid" drive now that I'm very seriously
considering. The "Momentus XT" (model # STAN500100). About $150 for
a 500GB HDD + 4GB SLC NAND + smarts with supposedly similar
performance to a full SSD. The most obvious drawback is hardiness
(drops). I understand that under normal usage (ie: you do the same
thing every day and you are not editing large videos) it should
spin down so power usage is similar to an SSD most of the time.</p>
<p>One of these will be going into my desktop over Christmas (the
main family machine) as the main system drive. The only thing
that's slowed me up on my laptop is that I would actually like a
1TB drive because I share my laptop with my son. No announcements
on larger sizes yet, but I'm assuming they must be coming.</p></div></content></entry></feed>

