Volume 9, Issue 15; 01 Feb 2006; last modified 08 Oct 2010

This is your two week warning: when I return from vacation, the RSS feeds are going to go away.

You see, I really wanted to emphasis “you” in the summary of DocBook V5.0b3In a feeble attempt to draw attention to it's analogue: the post-vacation “what I did on my winter vacation” post. and I couldn't. Because I refuse to escape markup. And RSS forces you to escape markup if you use it.

So I'm declaring that Atom has been a standard long enough for adoption and I'm going to discontinue publishing RSS feeds. Then I can have my emphasis and my markup when I want it.

You've been warned.


You may make it easier for people to switch by adding a link to the Atom feed into the post, I had to: go to the article page (i.e. out of my feed reader), hunt for the atom link, fail to find it, go to the home page, hunt for the atom link, fail to find it. Then realise that it was the little icon thingy and repoint my feed reader at it.

Although I guess most people who read your blog are probably savvy enough to work it out eventually!

Oh, almost forgot: have a great vacataion!

—Posted by Ian Phillips on 01 Feb 2006 @ 07:52 UTC #

Good point. I'll make it clearer in the essay that announces the implementation of the changes. And I'll redirect the RSS feeds to their Atom counterparts.

—Posted by Norman Walsh on 01 Feb 2006 @ 08:45 UTC #

I would like to drop also RSS from my my blog, but unfortunately not all CMSs support atom (in particular, not the one I'm using). BTW, the link that says escaped markup is broken. Greetings.

—Posted by Alejandro Exojo on 01 Feb 2006 @ 08:58 UTC #

Alas, Planet RDF won't like that much, as we're really rather keen on consuming RDF, ie. RSS 1.0. There is a way of doing that and not encoding though, I believe. Time to invoke Dave Beckett here...

—Posted by Edd Dumbill on 01 Feb 2006 @ 10:09 UTC #

Sigh. Perhaps I'm being hasty after all. I suppose I could just throw all the markup away.

—Posted by Norman Walsh on 01 Feb 2006 @ 11:34 UTC #

On the other hand, maybe PlanetRDF could map Atom to RDF.

—Posted by Norman Walsh on 01 Feb 2006 @ 11:40 UTC #

It should be noted that the Atom feed for Norman's weblog is:

I couldn't find it anywhere on entry's web page, and had to go to the main web page of the site.

Perhaps you want to add a LINK element to the each entriy's HEAD that containts application/atom+xml for the main weblog? I mean, you have a LINK for XML, metadata, and PDF forms of the entry, what's one more line really?

—Posted by David Magda on 02 Feb 2006 @ 12:03 UTC #

or maybe another way would be to use rdf:parseType="Literal" in RSS 1.0 as proposed by Dan Brickley on the wiki page about RSS content.

—Posted by karl on 02 Feb 2006 @ 02:44 UTC #

I directly switched from RSS to Atom to be sure to not miss an article. But I discovered that the Atom full text feed don't include the summary.

Bug or feature?


—Posted by Florent Georges on 04 Feb 2006 @ 06:58 UTC #

I'm not sure if it's a bug or a feature, but it was intentional. It seemed odd to put both the summary and the full text in the same feed. I wonder what feed readers will display if I do that?

—Posted by Norman Walsh on 10 Feb 2006 @ 06:58 UTC #

They will generally show whatever the user wants. Putting both in the feed is good practice.

F.ex. NetNewsWire has a mode where it will show an outline list of entries with summaries in one pane and the full text of the selected entry in another pane.

—Posted by Aristotle Pagaltzis on 14 Feb 2006 @ 06:37 UTC #

I'm deeply impressed with the people who managed to find the URL of the Atom feed on the site's home page, and very grateful to David Magda for spelling it out for me.

I'd feel bad, but I notice that when I look at the HTML source being served from the home page, the string 'atom' occurs only in two 'link' elements in the HTML header.

Norm, is it that you want a personal email every time someone wants to subscribe to your feed? Or have you done a redesign that accidentally lost the icon? Or is Opera just not up to displaying your site?

—Posted by C. M. Sperberg-McQueen on 13 Dec 2006 @ 12:20 UTC #

Uhm. I think the links to the feeds disappeared by accident when I simplified the layout a few months ago. I added a pointer to subscriptions to the home page this morning.

I don't know about Opera, but Firefox, and other browsers, I'm led to understand, have built in support for feeds so the absence of explicit links is probably less irksome now than it used to be.

But it was still accidental.

—Posted by Norman Walsh on 19 Dec 2006 @ 01:47 UTC #