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The short-form week of 21–27 Mar 2011

28 Mar 2011

The week in review, 140 characters at a time. This week, 124 messages in 138 conversations. (With 37 favorites.)

This document was created automatically from my archive of my Twitter stream. Due to limitations in the Twitter API and occasional glitches in my archiving system, it may not be 100% complete.

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 11:06am

"Vegetable" isn't in the fourth edition official Scrabble™ players dictionary. #randomobservations—@ndw
@ndw re 'vegetable' Its in the TWL list: http://www.mobipocket.com/en/eBooks/eBookDetails.asp?BookID=78536 (Android version coming soon)—@andrewwelch
@andrewwelch Good to know. :-) And do post when the Android edition is out!—@ndw

Monday at 01:58am

Really, you just now figured out that we've hitched the mobile web on a handful of greedy lumbering monopolists? JUST NOW?—@diveintomark

Monday at 06:40am

No, peerindex, you don't get write access to my twitter stream either. But thanks for playing.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Monday at 07:53am

#docbook is the most cited use case in the #W3C #XSLT #F2F. Indeed, we're looking into packaging issues.—@innovimax
@innovimax Da-amn, wish I was there.—@ndw

Monday at 08:24am

RT @SciencePunk Damage to nuclear reactor unleashes plume of toxic journalism http://bit.ly/f8wbo2—@atmanes

Monday at 08:40am

Text "American Taxpayer" to donate money to war in Libya—@jasonmustian

In a conversation that started on Monday at 09:23am

Heard the phrase "social graph" on R4 Today programme. Gah. Stop now. Do I have to make a video asking normal people what a 'graph' is?—@tommorris
@tommorris If you do, I bet you won’t like the answers you get.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Monday at 09:33am

Forgot to select seats for #xmlprague trip. Damn. #rookie #mistake—@ndw
@ndw youch—@eedeebee

In a conversation that started on Monday at 09:43am

Looking for Readability on the iPad? Grab TweetMag. Full reading list and save support. Hello iOS! http://bit.ly/f8BuRK—@readability
@readability No, but I am looking for it for #android—@ndw

Monday at 10:33am

"We are using money we don't have to kill people we don't know" -- Teller (via @pennjillette)—@briangovatos

Monday at 12:12pm

Photo: Then one day, the concrete pavers led him right out of 1967 and into a terrifying land of severe... http://tumblr.com/x1p1u8mcsp—@unhappyhipsters

In a conversation that started on Monday at 12:32pm

Did I hear that correctly? Orange want to charge me £3 per Mb for data access abroad? What planet are they on?—@michaelhkay
@michaelhkay orange seems to live on a cheaper plant than AT&T. they always make me laugh be asking for $19.90 for each MB. #moonpricing—@dret

In a conversation that started on Monday at 12:38pm

"A Shared Innovation Platform". Blech.—@ndw
@ndw Heh, yeah that wasn't a good bit of Kasabi. Non marketing bits are neat.—@gcarothers
@gcarothers thx. Lots more to come!—@ldodds
@gcarothers Maybe when I can see the non-marketing bits...—@ndw
@ndw point taken. Will get you on the invite list.—@ldodds

In a conversation that started on Monday at 12:44pm

ATT says T-Mobile customers will have to replace their phones? http://bit.ly/gMTinS #thisdealisgettingworseallthetime (http://bit.ly/ecKxsAA)—@bjepson
@bjepson “it will be done over time, in a way that's good for customers and good for AT&T.” If that doesn’t pin your BS detector, ...—@ndw
@ndw True, reconciling what's good for customers and what's good for AT&T is like mixing matter and antimatter.—@bjepson

Monday at 12:56pm

So what do teachers make? http://tinyurl.com/46vkykq This had me cheering.—@kurt_cagle

Monday at 01:42pm

Remember back in like '96, when "not found" pages were returned on 200 responses? It's like that again with #hashbang. Fuck you, Gawker.—@distobj

Monday at 02:05pm

You are solving the wrong problem. New blog post. http://bit.ly/dSLbYO—@azaaza

In a conversation that started on Monday at 06:49pm

The Politics of Fighting: http://bit.ly/hDXbT4—@ndw
@ndw Sadly what's happening in Belgium :-(—@fgeorges

In a conversation that started on Monday at 06:53pm

The establishment of single-purpose elements over reusable metadata, JavaScript, and CSS will eventually transform HTML into a bloated whale—@shelleypowers
@shelleypowers eventually?—@gcarothers

Monday at 09:04pm

Knowing that my conversations and "favorited" tweets will appear in a future archive on my weblog makes conv. and favs. more valuable to me.—@ndw

Tuesday at 10:15am

In my view, basic unit of thought and work of adults is and should remain the sentence, assembled into paragraphs, constituting an argument.—@kendall

Tuesday at 10:34am

Microsft builds software products, Google gives us services, Facebook takes your data—@xquery

In a conversation that started on Tuesday at 01:18pm

USPTO Gives Google Patent For Doodles http://bit.ly/dQRuJf—@slashdot
@slashdot Oh for the love of sanity!—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Tuesday at 01:27pm

To clarify: my AT&T Motorola Atrix has no "Unknown sources" checkbox in the Applications preferences, needed for the Android appstore—@edd
@edd Root that son of a ...—@ndw

Tuesday at 03:12pm

Interviewed for the internal newsletter. Oh pity me...—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Tuesday at 03:15pm

Google Spends $1 Million For Throttling Detection http://bit.ly/e5fAiR—@slashdot
@slashdot Good on them. Almost makes up for that patent on scribbles crap.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Tuesday at 03:20pm

A simple, two digit transposition in the 800 number for MET Life dental insurance is a phone sex line. #notthegreetingiexpected #funfacts—@ndw
@ndw re #phonesex I have a feeling thats a basic law of math and pyhsics. Change any two digits of anything and you end up with #phonesex—@DALDEI

Tuesday at 03:31pm

While I've no particular interest in the Amazon Appstore, I installed just for the joy of doing something AT&T wouldn't have let me do.—@ndw

Tuesday at 03:42pm

Congestion Pricing Myths Exposed: A Guide to the 'Bandwidth Crisis' at AT&T (or Anywhere Else) http://bit.ly/e1WSPZ and http://bit.ly/e4uiXa—@timoreilly

In a conversation that started on Tuesday at 03:52pm

and another fun link: PolarClock http://blog.pixelbreaker.com/polarclock—@marjoleink
@marjoleink Cool clock!—@ndw

Tuesday at 11:47pm

Without religion, good people does good things, and evil people does evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion—@Pizu

In a conversation that started on Wednesday at 05:16am

OK, that didn’t take long. Firefox 4 is nice and speedy, but still too non-native for me. Want Mac OS X Services and other integration.—@sentience
@sentience There’s a use for Mac OS X Services? Really? Do tell!—@ndw
@ndw Now that you can write your own in AppleScript or shell script, and call them via right-click or keybd shortcut, they’re super useful.—@sentience
@sentience Color me curious. Got any pointers to examples or more details?—@ndw
@ndw Actually, that article looks out-of-date. WordService is here: http://t.co/cLuZDYL—@sentience
@ndw I also make heavy use of these services for Evernote: http://t.co/WEeAzSC—@sentience
@ndw “Devon Technology's "Service Pack" is my favorite set of downloadable 3rd party services.” http://t.co/yan3YmQ—@sentience
@ndw Good video overview of Services in Snow Leopard: http://t.co/4dGlEl3—@sentience
@ndw And finally a nice “master list” of good Snow Leopard compatible services: http://t.co/ZscHsgF—@sentience
@sentience Thanks!—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Wednesday at 05:51am

Taking Firefox 4 for a test drive.—@ndw
@ndw It's nice. I like it. Alot. Try the sync function! :-)—@shepline

In a conversation that started on Wednesday at 07:48am

As promised to @jirkakosek xml-model support was implemented in oXygen before #xmlprague—@georgebina
@georgebina Congrats, George.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Wednesday at 07:54am

@DALDEI Testing twitter to self. Does anyone see this ?—@DALDEI
@DALDEI As I understand the rules, and I may be mistaken, a tweet that starts @DALDEI is seen by all your followers, but perhaps not others.—@ndw
@DALDEI I do!—@peteaven

Wednesday at 08:30am

Buy DocBook: TDG and support Japanese Disaster Relief: http://oreil.ly/i8l52e (Or use the free, online version and send a bigger donation!)—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Wednesday at 08:32am

Maybe it's too early to start integrating HTML5 into the DocBook stylesheets. http://bit.ly/hVj888—@ndw
@ndw I'm not convinced by his "don't use JS" argument. I think that using a JS shim to fix ancient browsers is fine here, I'd go with that.—@robinberjon
@robinberjon @ndw At least "bullet-proofing" <section> with <div> misses the point entirely.—@hsivonen
@hsivonen @robinberjon I wonder what links and w3m do with the new elements.—@ndw

Wednesday at 08:32am

RT @ndw Maybe it's too early to start integrating HTML5 into the DocBook stylesheets. http://bit.ly/hVj888—@docbook

Wednesday at 08:45am

Taking votes? I say it's not. RT @ndw: Maybe it's too early to start integrating HTML5 into the DocBook stylesheets. http://bit.ly/hVj888—@lizfraley

Wednesday at 09:05am

Compared to Chrome (on the Mac), the full height title bar on Firefox looks big and wasteful of space.—@ndw

Wednesday at 10:39am

Wednesday at 10:42pm

I never make the same mistake twice. I make it 5 or 6 times, just to be sure.—@LordStewie

In a conversation that started on Thursday at 04:23am

forgot about ctl-R for searching bash history ... handy that—@xquery
@xquery So handy, in fact, that I years ago stopped using !. In fact, I have ‘histchars=‘ in my .bashrc and I’ve never missed ‘em.—@ndw
@ndw I use Esc N/ Esc P (in tcsh) and they are amazing...—@eedeebee
@eedeebee Oh, yes, I probably use ^P and ^N for moving linearly through the history far more than ^R, but ^R is still really handy!—@ndw
@xquery Thank you for that reminder; I knew there was a magic key combination, couldn't remember what...—@JeniT

In a conversation that started on Thursday at 02:08pm

Taxi’d to BDL. Leg 1 of, uhm, 5 down. #XMLPrague, here I come.—@ndw
@ndw safe (and restful) travels, see ya when you get here—@xquery
@ndw safe travels. See you later—@jimbo843

In a conversation that started on Thursday at 03:19pm

Waiting to see if the guy who broke the armrest clean off his seat just cancelled this flight. That's right buddy, hold it in place & smile—@ndw
@ndw I actually think they can take the seat out of service and fly the plane. Dude gets bumped if there aren't any open seats...—@sarahokeefe
@sarahokeefe Happily, you're right. And there were open seats. Arrived IAD. FRA, you're next.—@ndw

Thursday at 05:21pm

Word: @wilw I wish everyone going to the Charlie Sheen Tour would skip it and donate the ticket price to a battered women's shelter.—@boymonster

Thursday at 05:23pm

The "complimentary beer" in the United lounge is "Bud Light". Which part of "beer" don't they understand?—@ndw

Thursday at 08:49pm

@sentience @ndw Thanks for noticing my Services list! If you like Evernote Services, you might enjoy this recent one: http://bit.ly/hRD1Nu—@Veritrope

Saturday at 02:41am

Hello #xmlprague!—@ndw

Saturday at 02:47am

I shall now stop fiddling with my slides. See you in 43 minutes. #xmlprague—@ndw

Saturday at 03:18am

@ndw First up at #xmlprague speaking about HTML + XML task force—@jimbo843

Saturday at 03:19am

First up, @ndw on HTML+XML. Conclusions is crossed out on the overview slide...—@jpcs

Saturday at 03:23am

#xmlprague hosted by "the most beautiful computer science department in the world" http://t.co/WlsyEUg—@jimbo843

Saturday at 03:25am

Interesting my phone changes @ndw to @bsquare.—@smjwsk

Saturday at 03:26am

A bunch of red on the slides on the XML/HTML presentation of Norm Walsh (@ndw). Is this really blood? #xmlprague #html—@innovimax

Saturday at 03:27am

Given the same HTML document an HTML5 parser and an XML parser may produce different DOMs - not good @ndw #xmlprague—@jimbo843

Saturday at 03:36am

Sorry to see @ndw kind of confirming what I wrote 3 years ago (http://ur1.ca/3obubb) #xmlprague #html5 #fails—@evlist

Saturday at 03:41am

"The future is longer than the past. We have an opportunity to improve things in the future" - @ndw #html5 #xmlprague—@jpcs

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 03:45am

Video back up (Windows). Perhaps it was just ndw? #xmlprague—@dpawson
@dpawson Yes, @whatwg members secretly implemented an @ndw filter. Will be part of their living standard later. #xmlprague—@gimsieke

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 03:50am

Hmm. Do I want to go back and look at the tweets from my talk? #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw the general sentiment seemed to be despair—@JeniT
@ndw twitter is trimming searches to 20 results. :\\ From what I saw everyone really enjoyed it. Congrats—@dscape
@ndw whynot hack a browser that does to HTML5, what XML wants. working code can speak louder than stds (witness json) #xmlprague—@eedeebee
@eedeebee I think you’ll like Alex’s talk tomorrow :-)—@ndw
@ndw lookin fwd to it now :)—@eedeebee

Saturday at 03:52am

@ndw we can repeat them once more. I liked the bright far future btw, the rest, well... ;) #xmlprague—@Kandura

Saturday at 04:03am

Watched @ndw speak on HTML 5 at #xmlprague - deep sigh—@al3xbrown

Saturday at 04:27am

I'll have to see if I can hack James' #Emacs schema-locating rules system to recognize the xml-model PI.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 04:27am

I'll have to see if I can hack James' #Emacs schema-locating rules system to recognize the xml-model PI. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw xml-model PI published just as HTML bans processing instructions... so, now need an attribute instead?—@barefootliam
@ndw I have Emacs code for recognising the (pre-xml-model) oXygen PI that should be easy to adapt. #xmlprague—@MenteaXML

Saturday at 04:27am

Bah. Forgot to mention that the back end of my presentation system would have been my #demojam entry if I was eligible. #xmlprague—@ndw

Saturday at 05:08am

This Tweet is Open Source, please feel free to look at the code, change and reuse #xmlprague—@adamretter

Saturday at 05:08am

@ndw Demo Jam request for animotron.org demo—@shabanovd

Saturday at 05:10am

@ndw Demo Jam request for animotron.org demo #xmlprague #demojam—@shabanovd

Saturday at 05:41am

"[I'm lucky] I could've been named CORBA as a kid" says Jason. *News flash: Dyslexic parents name son after snake* #xmlprague—@uogbuji

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 05:49am

its just so much easier to map #json to #xml than the other way round. #xmlprague—@smjwsk
@smjwsk [easier to map #json to #xml than the other way] - yes - JSON doen't do mixed content. #xmlprague—@michaelhkay

Saturday at 05:49am

Clearly I need to talk Ryan into using the ISBN number of *my* book in his examples in the future. #xmlprague—@ndw

Saturday at 08:29am

RT @torgo … survey on what features Zurich airport should build into their new app. My answer: don't build an app; build a better website.—@karlpro

Saturday at 08:48am

RT @umairh: "Austerity" is code for: "The rich got bailouts. You and your grandkids? You get the bill."—@eedeebee

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 09:55am

Lots of FF4 "sync can't connect to server". PITA.—@mikeloukides
@mikeloukides True dat.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 10:26am

@ndw interesting. Depressing, but interesting.—@sarahokeefe

Saturday at 10:29am

Balancing conflicting requirements against the need for modularity -- same themes as @ndw's talk #xmlprague #NETCONF #YANG—@mdubinko

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 10:30am

I know most of the dwarf names but which one is "doc"? #xmlprague—@sgmlguru
@sgmlguru I don’t know about “doc”, but I can point you to “sleepy”. #xmlprague #jetlag—@ndw
@ndw And you didn't even have a beer at lunch! #xmlprague—@jpcs
@jpcs I suspect #jetlag > #beerlag #xmlprague—@eedeebee
@jpcs i suspect #jetlag > #beerlag—@eedeebee

Saturday at 10:45am

Norman Walsh: »HTML+XML at XML Prague« · http://bit.ly/fUE5DP // via @ndw #xmlprague—@XMLArbyter

Saturday at 10:57am

Those darned DocBook stylesheets, always causin' trouble. #xmlprague #docbook—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:01am

docbook -- what evil genius it required to lure so many well-meaning individuals into such regular misery. #xmlprague—@aljopainter
@aljopainter Indeed. #DocBook is the worst system for technical documentation except for all the others. (With apologies to W. Churchill.)—@ndw

Saturday at 11:05am

How to generate a context file for docbook xslt files, automatically? @ndw? #xmlprague—@dpawson

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:07am

Extend Oasis catalog system for this? #xmlprague—@dpawson
@dpawson That’s an interesting idea.—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:15am

ooh @michaelhkay just dissed @jpcs nice preso that he hasn't even presented yet #xmlprague—@eedeebee
@eedeebee Maybe it’s a good thing I didn’t have time to learn prezzi for mine. #xmlprague—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:18am

ooh #xslt streaming sounds like "making things more complex for developers" rather than "making things easier" #xmlprague #maybeidontgetit—@eedeebee
@eedeebee It’s making things *way* easier for use cases that need streaming. #xmlprague #trustme—@ndw

Saturday at 11:20am

@ndw @fgeorges seems to me like the wrong #hammer to use then—@eedeebee

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:21am

Thinking that xproc will need a revamp to get it to play nice with xslt30. #xmlprague—@aljopainter
@aljopainter Not clear to me. I am trying to fix #XMLCalabash so that I can “compile” down to Saxon pipes. #shouldjustwork #xmlprague #xproc—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:24am

But memory consumption can also be reduced with memory mapped data models, and other database techniques. #xslt #xmlprague—@jpcs
@jpcs i am convinced that using xslt for streaming is stupid & only promoted by those who thinks all XML processing should go thru XSLT—@eedeebee
@eedeebee @jpcs Confidently wrong then :-P—@ndw
@ndw @jpcs happy to be proven wrong by an example.—@eedeebee

In a conversation that started on Saturday at 11:28am

@ndw Wanting to be able to identify the output of xslt "orks in xproc .. a guess a similar wish for extra result-docs. #xmlprague—@aljopainter
@aljopainter I can’t parse that tweet. Let’s chat.—@ndw

Saturday at 03:58pm

RT @ndw: "Here are the slides from my #xmlprague talk: http://bit.ly/fUE5DP" A bit worrying... guess there must be good reasons...—@StianSigvartsen

Saturday at 04:54pm

I'm glad Obama named the CEO of GE a top economic advisor. Maybe he can teach us how to avoid paying taxes, like GE!—@BorowitzReport

Saturday at 06:59pm

The word 'monetisation' makes me want to reach for my gun. Related: I've singularly failed to monetise any venture I've been involved with.—@maupuia

Saturday at 07:15pm

They demonized unions, and then we shipped all our manufacturing jobs overseas. Now they're demonizing teachers.—@zeldman

Sunday at 12:55am

No, don't worry daylight saving's time, I didn't want that other hour of sleep anyway. #xmlprague #lies—@ndw

Sunday at 02:35am

The ᐸinnovimax/ᐳ Daily is out! http://bit.ly/fTmEYa ▸ Top stories today via @fgeorges @ndw—@innovimax

Sunday at 02:50am

"I felt this was an area where implementation needed to lead standardization" Michael Kay #xmlprague—@mdubinko

Sunday at 02:50am

Saxon-CE is absolutely stunning. Controlling the browser in a sensible way. #xmlprague—@ndw

Sunday at 03:00am

RT @ndw: Saxon-CE is absolutely stunning. Controlling the browser in a sensible way. #xmlprague—@xmlprague

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 03:01am

If @ndw is "XML Superstar" then @michaelhkay is "XSLT Superstar". #xmlprague—@sgmlguru
@sgmlguru If I’m a superstar, you’re going to have to find some much, much grander adjective for @michaelhkay—@ndw
@ndw I'm wondering if it's possible for @michaelhkay to sign my copy of Saxon. #xmlprague—@sgmlguru
@sgmlguru I haven’t the faintest idea, but maybe if you ask nicely...—@ndw

Sunday at 03:16am

Space giveth, and time taketh away. #xmlprague—@mdubinko

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 03:16am

Recursion at #xmlprague, someone watching the video of the talk watching the video of the talk watching the ...—@ndw
@ndw But it's side effect free. #xmlprague—@sgmlguru

Sunday at 03:19am

Mom said never look in the parallel mirrors RT @ndw: Recursion @ #xmlprague, someone watching video of the talk watching video of the...—@uogbuji

Sunday at 03:23am

Alex: “I’m going to consume all of your bandwidth...” #xmlprague—@ndw

Sunday at 03:25am

My god, it's full of stars... #xmlprague—@mdubinko

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 03:27am

I wonder if I should change my twitter archiver to add support for archiving hashtag searches for events I attended.—@ndw
@ndw seems prudent—@eedeebee
@eedeebee Bleh. The Twitter search API returns results in a totally different way than other API calls.—@ndw
@ndw let me guess that it was implemented by a different "org" within twitter...sigh...—@eedeebee

Sunday at 03:30am

Alex: “I like to abuse the browser” #xmlprague—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 06:37am

#xmlprague DITA specilaizations in Dtds are imho a horrible invention. Hardly anyone can understand them, let alone implement.—@eriksiegel
@eriksiegel Yeah, they’ve never pleased me either. #xmlprague—@ndw

Sunday at 06:46am

Wonder if I can adapt @georgebina's components to build typed object graphs (i.e. XDMs for Saxon) from RELAX NG schemas. #xmlprague—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 07:03am

Here comes little Johnny Tables #xmlprague—@ndw
@mdubinko “Bobby Tables”. My bad.—@ndw

Sunday at 07:13am

if user-entered data can make your webapp 500, you've already lost #xmlprague—@mdubinko

Sunday at 07:36am

I put a “safe mode” option in #XMLCalabash in an effort to help with injection problems for things like demo apps. #xmlprague—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 07:44am

The XProc WG, Henry, not the Core WG :-) #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw I guess you mean the "XML Processing Model WG" :-) #xmlprague—@fgeorges

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 07:51am

MarkMail.org is pure XQuery with no sanitization calls. Anyone wanna try injecting something? :) #xmlprague—@hunterhacker
@hunterhacker I'm injecting code in MarkMail every day, and I must say it helps me retrieving it years later ;-) #xmlprague—@fgeorges

Sunday at 07:56am

The editor’s draft of what will be the LC of XML Processor Profiles: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/docs/xml-proc-profiles.html #xmlprague—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 08:40am

The pattern “*:name” always bothers me. Stupid namespace bug in XQuery design. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw What would you use instead? Do you refer to the ability to bind several namespace URIs to a single prefix in XPath? #xmlprague—@fgeorges
@fgeorges No. I usually see it when the default namespace conflicts with elements in no namespace. So don’t do that. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw Ouch, yes indeed. #xmlprague—@fgeorges

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 08:45am

"4X" - XML, XQuery, XSLT, XForms #xmlprague—@jpcs
@jpcs XRXX—@adamretter
@adamretter @jpcs Hey, maybe that’s why ICANN gave us those .xxx domains—@ndw
@ndw thats it right! Imagine if I could have a .xml domain - that would be ace—@adamretter
@adamretter "X4R", like W3C #xmlprague—@jpcs

Sunday at 08:47am

“AXE” All XML Everywhere. #xmlprague—@ndw

Sunday at 08:49am

@ndw @fgeorges (“*:nameâ€*) I see it (in XSLT) as a shortcut to process XML when one doesn't care of the (default) namespace #xmlprague—@olivierjeulin

Sunday at 08:50am

@ndw #xmlprague - *:x trouble comes in the browser when XHTML might or might be explicit default namespace... you can get islands of XHTML—@barefootliam

Sunday at 08:52am

There's always X∞ #unicode #xmlprague—@mdubinko

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 08:57am

XQuery and XSLT in the browser. Very cool stuff. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw well it's only a decade late. CSS ate that lunch. someday please...—@TerrisLinenbach

Sunday at 08:58am

Murray proposes “ubiqXQuery” - Ubiquitous XQuery #xmlprague—@ndw

Sunday at 08:59am

Michael Kay: the common problem between this effort and Saxon-CE is the lack of asynchronous document loading #xmlprague—@mdubinko

Sunday at 09:00am

@innovimax If it doesn’t make us all seasick. #xmlprague—@ndw

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 09:02am

Any of the X*intheBrowser demos show off things you can't do easiliy with Javascript itself? All of em built in javascript so... #xmlprague—@eedeebee
@eedeebee Yes. The magic word is “easy”. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw: "easy" is so context dependent... easy for who? #xmlprague—@evlist
@ndw code snippets I've seen make me think the code would be simpler/easier in javascript/jQuery - looking for examples that are easier in X—@eedeebee
@eedeebee Easier for you maybe :-) But seriously, declarative XSLT is going to be way easier for many classes of transformations.—@ndw
@ndw looking fwd to an example - seriously #xmlprague—@eedeebee
@eedeebee there's a difference in "it can be done" and "I can do it"... and XSLT/XQuery in the Browser might make that be, "I want to do it"—@barefootliam
@barefootliam yah makes the earlier tweet point from uche that this stuff is not for general web developers - only for XML experts.—@eedeebee

Sunday at 09:04am

Pro tip: if you’re going to project, make sure you’ve got very high contrast slides—@ndw

Sunday at 09:07am

but the number of people who think they can outsmart the compiler is larger than the number who can pull it off. #xmlprague—@mdubinko

Sunday at 09:12am

Great review of Color in the App Store: http://j.mp/fwseiV—@gruber

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 09:38am

Dreaming about <emph/good old days/ at #xmlprague, listening at <author/Michael SMcQ/.—@fgeorges
@fgeorges Well played! #xmlprague—@ndw
@fgeorges Well played!—@ndw

Sunday at 09:40am

RT @ndw: @fgeorges Well played! #xmlprague #heh—@eedeebee

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 09:43am

“XML resists becoming a language that human beings can use” CMSMcQ #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw human beings can use?like xhtml?—@capucinnolover
@ndw XML started out simple, so we worked night and day writing additional bloated specs to make it seem harder.—@david_megginson

Sunday at 09:45am

if you’re going to project, make sure you’ve got very high contrast slides /via @ndw—@ProTipClip

Sunday at 09:51am

Found some W3C (and others) specs in EPUB format at http://goo.gl/cgxxzz, and conversion tools at http://goo.gl/HKOVx (by @ndw)—@_sss_

Sunday at 09:51am

"Let's put XML in the browser, whether they want it there or not!" - CMSMcQ #xmlprague—@jpcs

Sunday at 09:53am

@dominiquepere I'd much prefer a friendly user so I can implement something that works rather than another MS Word clone. #xmlprague—@sgmlguru

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 09:53am

Man. He is good at the closing keynote thing. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw none better. srsly, none.—@RepoRat

Sunday at 09:55am

RT @ndw: Man. He is good at the closing keynote thing. #xmlprague #awesome—@eedeebee

In a conversation that started on Sunday at 10:51am

Ironic given its origins. Sure it's the spec's fault? @ndw: “XML resists becoming a language that human beings can use” CMSMcQ #xmlprague—@JamieXML
@JamieXML I took the quote out of context for the humor value. I don’t think it’s true, though I’m sure some do. #xmlprague—@ndw
@ndw Given the speaker and locale, yes. Is it time for us to face up to what XSD has done to us, yet? :) #xmlprague—@JamieXML

Sunday at 10:53am

Echoes of the similar evolution of HTML from humans-can-do-this to Baroque. Have we really abandoned DIY? DPH? @ndw #xmlprague—@JamieXML